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Or phrases to that impression. ACHILLES: That feels like what occurred while the 4 folks all stumbled on various degrees to learn within the MU-picture-or a minimum of 3 of u did.... TORTOISE: What an remarkable twist of fate that there could be the sort of resemblance among that unusual photograph which I chanced upon within the Well-Tempered Clavier and the craze of our dialog. ACHILLES: Do you think that it is simply accident? TORTOISE: in fact. ANTEATER: good, i'm hoping you could clutch now how the recommendations in Aunt Hillary emerge from the manipulation of symbols composed of signs composed of groups composed of lower-level groups, right down to ants. ACHILLES: Why do you name it "symbol manipulation"? Who does the manipulating, if the symbols are themselves lively? who's the agent? Prelude . . . Ant Fugue 181 ANTEATER: This will get again to the query that you simply past raised approximately objective. you are correct that symbols themselves are energetic, however the actions which they keep on with are however no longer completely loose. The actions of all symbols are strictly decided through the country of the total approach during which they dwell. consequently, the complete method is liable for how its symbols set off one another, and so it's particularly average to talk of the whole approach because the "agent. " because the symbols function, the nation of the method will get slowly remodeled, or up-to-date. yet there are lots of positive factors that stay through the years. it's this in part consistent, in part various process that's the agent. you possibly can supply a reputation to the total method. for instance, Aunt Hillary is the "who" who might be acknowledged to govern her symbols; and also you are related, Achilles. ACHILLES: that is particularly a wierd characterization of the idea of who i'm. i am not convinced i will be able to absolutely know it, yet i'll think about it. TORTOISE: it'd be fairly attention-grabbing to stick to the symbols on your mind as you do this puzzling over the symbols on your mind. ACHILLES: that is too complex for me. i've got hassle sufficient simply attempting to photograph the way it is feasible to examine an ant colony and browse it at the image point. i will be able to definitely think perceiving it on the ant point; and with a bit difficulty, i will be able to think what it has to be prefer to understand it on the sign point; yet what on this planet can or not it's prefer to understand an ant colony on the image point? ANTEATER: One learns merely via lengthy perform. but if one is at my degree, one reads the pinnacle point of an ant colony as simply as you your self learn the "mu" within the MU-picture. ACHILLES: rather? That has to be an awesome event. ANTEATER: In a way-but it's also one that is kind of prevalent to you, Achilles. ACHILLES: widespread to me? What do you suggest? i haven't checked out an ant colony on something however the ant point. ANTEATER: probably no longer; yet ant colonies are not any varied from brains in lots of respects. ACHILLES: i haven't obvious nor learn any mind both, despite the fact that. ANTEATER: What approximately your individual mind? will not be you conscious of your personal recommendations? isn't really that the essence of recognition? What else are you doing yet examining your personal mind at once on the image point?